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About our Guest

Welcome to Jon Gordon’s Positive University Podcast. On this episode Jon is joined by multi Grammy Award-winning, platinum selling artist, and New York Times bestselling author, Lecrae.

Lecrae is a visionary thought leader with much wisdom to share, as you’ll hear during this episode. Jon and Lecrae talk about:

  • How to transform communities and create lasting change
  • How to find hope in the midst of struggle
  • How we address racism from a Biblical perspective
  • The dangers of Cancel Culture
  • And so much more..

We especially loved hearing Lecrae’s authenticity as he talked about his own struggles with depression and anxiety and how God is restoring him and others through it.

Special Bonus: Lecrae also shares a surprising, yet incredible role he’d LOVE to play in a movie. It’s so good. : )


Be sure to check out Lecrae’s new song and video with John Legend called DROWN. You can listen anywhere you access music. You can watch it here.


Like always, if you enjoy this episode share it with others. Post on social and tag @JonGordon11 and @Lecrae. Share it with at least 2 friends and let’s spread this message of hope together.



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A catalyst for restoration in faith, music, and popular culture, Lecrae surpassed the label, Christian hip-hop artist, when his Anomaly album (2016) debuted at #1 on Billboard Top 200 Charts, the first time ever in Billboard chart history that an artist occupied the No. 1 album spot on both the Billboard Top 200 and Gospel Albums.

To date, he has sold more than 3 million copies and been nominated for 5 Grammy Awards including a win for Best Gospel Album, 15 Dove Awards, one Billboard Music Award, and received both a Soul Train Music Award and BET Hip-Hop Nomination.

From his 2017 album, All Things Work Together, his single “I’ll Find You”ft. Tori Kelly, is now certified platinum by the RIAA (sold over 1 million copies) and “Blessings” ft Ty Dolla $ign is now Gold (sold over 500k).

A Multi Grammy Award-winning platinum selling artist, Lecrae has evolved into a New York Times best-selling author, entrepreneur, speaker, thought leader, philanthropist, and Co-Owner/President of Reach Records. He is part of the new wave of thought leaders who are engaging the culture and taking Jesus out of the pulpits into the wider world in hopes of restoring faith. “I am a hip-hop artist who happens to be Christian, believes in God, and follows the teachings of Jesus, but my music is created for all!”


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