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John Ruhlin

About our Guest

In this episode of the Positive University Podcast, bestselling author Jon Gordon talks with John Ruhlin, founder of the Ruhlin Group and author of Giftology: The Art and Science of Using Gifts to Cut Through the Noise, Increase Referrals, and Strengthen Client Retention.

This interview may be one of the most important that you’ll listen to if you want to transform your business and increase your ROR (Return On Relationships).

Not only does John Ruhlin share some incredibly practical strategies, the overall mindset his ideas represent could change your business and your life.

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